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chad sexington 8:48 Sat Oct 18
Employment law question

I work for a company which has two sites. I am contracted to one but work at the other due to it being closer to where I live. They are now shutting the site I work at and moving it to the other one and I am being made redundant. Can they do this? My contract is clear that I work for the other site but I was told that due to the amount if time I have been working at the nearer one I am classed as one of their employees. To say I'm pissed off and angry doesn't come close, particularly as I found out during my honeymoon. Advice and cunting off welcome.

chad sexington 12:16 Sun Oct 19
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Appreciated joe

joe royal 10:14 Sun Oct 19
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Ched


When you pass let me know and I'll sort you out some touring work

penners28 9:37 Sun Oct 19
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Chad. They cannot make a job redundant and then fill it with someone else. The job title, duties would have to be changed, or the job is miles away

chad sexington 9:33 Sun Oct 19
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Micky, it's evident that is the case.

Joe, have been thinking about it for a while. Got all the books etc for the theory. Might be time to step up and do it

joe royal 12:47 Sun Oct 19
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Become a lorry driver

mickyallsorts 12:28 Sun Oct 19
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It's orrible but the firm does not want you. I have been on both sides, getting rid of people under the guise of redundancies and them getting rid of me.

They will be looking after certain bods at this time, why are they not looking after you. Every man for themselves.

JACK1 11:57 Sat Oct 18
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are you a union member -if so take advantage of their legal representative -if not check out your credit cards or insurance policies they normally have legal expenses for this sort of thing - as for the advice that is for the lawyers hope that helps good luck

chad sexington 11:43 Sat Oct 18
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Thanks annony. Its very raw at the minute and I'm annoyed but not look to rush to a solicitors claiming unfair dismissal etc. it's more about ascertaining where I stand. I understand the companies decision and the almagamation makes perfect sense. For me though I work for the site that is remaining open only and don't do anything for the one I am stationed at and my contract attests to this. Having to apply again for the job I already do for the site I already work for however does not make sense to me, there's every chance I may get it when they officially become available. It's a shit situation and I'm a bit bewildered as to why I'm even in it but it will come clearer as time progresses I guess. Having read porters issues on the other thread this seems slightly more trivial but work is hard to come by in my industry and I don't look forwardthe prospect of having to go on the job hunt again.

Annony 11:06 Sat Oct 18
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Chad, very sorry to hear that. I have been through it a longtime ago also after 14 years. It is no consolation to you and I am not being condescending.

I have been on both sides employee and employer. At the end of the day the economy is not good and the company are probably gutted that they are having to close down the site after all the hard work setting it up. You only close down if you are losing money and running up debts. You can only subsidise a business for so long.

You may have a case or not, beware solicitors as unless it's no win no fee, they will encourage you to fight and charge you their hourly rate £200+?

Wish I had moved on with my unfair dismissal claim at the time, but I was bitter and just saw red, the Solicitor just had to nod and say let's write to them and the litigation begins, no grounds as they made sure no one replaced me directly, redundancy is not illegal. A lot of wasted energy. Sometimes best to just move on.

Anyway I wish you all the best mate and hope things work out for you with some good luck!

chad sexington 10:28 Sat Oct 18
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Nice one. Appreciate the help.

chelmsfordhammer 10:25 Sat Oct 18
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Chad, seems mad to me that they haven't offered voluntary redundancy first. Your best bet is to get a free consultation with a solicitor, although from what you've said it seems what they're doing is within the law. If you need any advice drop me whomail as I've been trained in labour law although redundancy isn't my speciality. Good luck.

chad sexington 10:20 Sat Oct 18
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Oh and compulsory across the board as far as I am aware

chad sexington 10:18 Sat Oct 18
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Chelmsford, no union. As I say one of the potential jobs being offered is the job that I already do. It is a very complicated situation but I feel that I am being unfairly treated here and not the only one. Going to have to speak to an adviser about it in the new week

chelmsfordhammer 10:00 Sat Oct 18
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Chad, I take it these are the jobs at the other site?. If so, that would be right , that's how most companies sort out redundancies . At ours those 25 jobs would go to the ones that are most senior and have the right skills ie last in , first out. Have they sought volunteers for redundancy or have they gone straight to compulsory. It could be they'd get volunteers at the site that's still open that would then create vacancies for those at the closing site.
I take it there's no union at either of the sites?.

chad sexington 9:55 Sat Oct 18
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They are making them available to those at the site who have been made redundant first. About 25 jobs and 50 odd being made redundant. I've been at the company 6 years and at this site for the last 2.

chelmsfordhammer 9:33 Sat Oct 18
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If your saying they are going to re advertise your job, that's illegal.

chelmsfordhammer 9:32 Sat Oct 18
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Chad, how long have you worked for your current company?

chad sexington 9:30 Sat Oct 18
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My exact job is to become available again, same title. If what you're saying is correct penners then surely they can't do that

chelmsfordhammer 9:27 Sat Oct 18
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Penners , that's not totally correct. Most companies will have a pecking list of how redundancies are made. Where I work although the job goes it doesn't mean the person working on that jobs goes as well. The junior person would go and the person who's jobs gone would take up their role.

penners28 9:23 Sat Oct 18
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Its jobs that are made redundant, not people. Therefore if your role is no longer required, they can make you redundant. Locations of offices dont come into it unless its the other way round, ie not making people redundant but trying to get them to move offices. It has to to be a "reasonable" distance. From memory its 25 miles

chad sexington 9:13 Sat Oct 18
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I'm guessing I have no case but will be contacting ACAS about it. I can commute to my contracted site but it is a lot further and the only reason I work at the current one is convenience. I have to reapply for my job at the site I already work for. To me that doesn't sound fair but I guess nothing is in business

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